How does hdmi hdcp work

I am not sure, and need help with this, as to whether the Intensity Pro 4K and other similar capture cards would, if they see a x 50 signal incoming, drop the signal down to 30hz and work with that lower refresh rate if that is the highest refresh rate they can cope with, or do they simply have no chance of using a signal with a higher refresh rate?

I am unsure as to whether what I think should be happening in 1: and 2: above are correct, so would be very interested to hear from others who might see where the issue is here…. Thank you for your kind words — staying kind and helping each other is most certainly the most important thing for my website! After you flash the firmware you have to unplug and replug it in to reboot it.

Why are you using the Integral and the other device? Just use the Integral. Because you need 4K you likely need another firmware. If you get the right answer please do let us know what you find out that works please. Hope to do the same with 4K in the future. The storage space needed will be insane though. Very good question, I had not thought about that. But asking the seller is definitely recommended — please let us know if they are available with a US plug in case you find out.

I am in need of a bit of help here. It is HDMI 2. You need the hack too right, to put it in the same folder as the original firmware but replace it with that one. Sucks HD Fury got shut down tonight.. Think its the firmware posted above but not sure. Currently asking them that now. Want to hook up a Tivo Bolt to record in 4K potentially. Thanks for the help. The unit does not even seem to get warm, and one user even runs it without a power-supply.

The one linked here has been tested by at least 2 people, but since these splitters have a come-and-go pattern when it comes to HDCP stripping, it will always be a little gamble if it will work properly.

Then again, the price is right I would say for a gamble like this one, and seeing confirmations here would give me more comfort as well. Thanks for posting and sharing! This will most certainly help others. I did notice it seemed to be pretty hot. Then one day I saw weird flashes on the TV, and before I could do anything the screen went blank. Had to resort to using the Composite connectors to use the TV.

So just be aware! I did read a real horror story about use of a multi-port splitter in a Bar with multiple TVs where several of the big screen TVs were wiped out. Just being curious, but is all your equipment grounded? Is there something available to protect hdmi inputs? Then again, grounding might introduce HDMI ground loop hum.

Never experienced that one either, but there a plenty posts online discussing that. I have had problems with this too. This helped. Not sure what happened to the old cables as they worked fine before. Anyway, I am good to go now! Another source for good cables is Amazon Basic cables.

Awesome, and thanks for reporting. Sorry-I hope this link works,Lol. Awesome — thanks for taking the effort! This Article was a life saver for me! Whereas the A. Thought this might help some people. Thank Rob for letting us know. Glad to hear some other are having success with other solutions but just to throw my 2cents in here, I have chased this dragon for years.

My big hangup was video conferencing content share from devices that we own specifically but arent hdcp compliant. Some of these are hardwares being tested and created. The only solution I have found that consistently has allowed me to conduct my business….. I have tested and tested over last few years now and for me, the only solution I have had faith in is that specific model. Thanks Kurt for chiming in!

I am a little bit concerned. I am not sure that any of the splitters mentioned above would strip 2. Can anyone confirm any splitters that remove HDCP 2. I received confirmation that the Integral has shipped. I will report back my findings. I myself am planning to make an ambilight project with this, and I have seen others with problematic HDMI equipment who found a good use for this as well,… so no illegal stuff either.

I received a shipping notice first thing Monday morning. I am expecting it to arrive tomorrow Wednesday. I will hook it up immediately, try some 4K content and report back. This was NOT a plug and play device. Honestly, I did so many things to try and get this thing to work. So many combinations of settings. BUT, I finally think I have been able to get the handshake to work. The Roku now recognizes the Integra as a 4K device.

The TV now recognizes the Roku and a 4K signal. Thanks for sharing. If a HDCP 1. As for the standard, HDMI 1. It solves all the incompatibility issues — if you pick the right splitter. The latter is why we post our findings here with the cheap splitters we find all over the Internet.

So if you do not yet have a HDMI splitter: try one of these cheap ones listed here in the article and in the posts. If you already do have one, then just hook it up and see what happens. The projector does have HDMI in, so this is not an issue. I can confirm that my cheap splitter, 1. However, when looking at AliExpress, I did find some.

The result of my search can be found here. I have not been able to test any of these, so it remains a gamble. This one however looks a lot like mine, just bigger, and advertises HDCP as well. It might be worth a try. I did find a couple on Amazon as well, again: no guarantee that they will remove HDCP, but not super expensive either. With this model a user suggests it strips HDCP, not sure if that is still the case of course.

Amazon might be a few dollars more, but when located in the US, shipping will be a lot faster. If you find a model that works, please let us know, so I can update the list in this article ….

Thank Ted! That would be great! I understand that this typically should be port 4 or 3. So your input would be great, even if that particular model fails. The reason for this change of plan is because further research has shown that I can get the same results by running a HDMI line from the PC to the receiver and then run a new line from the receiver to the projector — — apparently with-out any signal loss….

Just be aware that the route you are about to take may not work. For whatever reason, I could never get it to work.

You may have better luck with a different AV Receiver and please post your findings here as well as model numbers for all the equipment used as well as just going into a projector. Good luck and let us know how it goes! Sharing your findings here is appreciated though, since others might run into a similar scenario. As for 4K splitters: I have no experience with those, since I have no use yet for 4K video. Maybe in the future when I decide to invest in a new TV. Trev: Thanks for sharing!

But I have heard of others running into the same situation as you did where the splitter had to be connected directly to the source that had HDCP protection. One customer review said it will strip out the HDCP protection, but, for their purposes gaming , it caused other problems. My DVR is too full, and is not really for archiving. I do not want to lose any content quality when copying for personal use later. All done by HDMI of course. Your setup will work. I recommend reading the specs which rarely mention surround sound and check the user comments.

It is not often mentioned that the Elgato has the option for analog input as well component, super video and composite — if I recall correctly, for s-video a separate cable needs to be purchased. In the past I have had Hauppauge , which used to have a stellar reputation, but long term driver support has been disappointing — not sure what the status is these days.

Thanks for that. How do you feel about the products from Epiphan? Their website looks great and gives a good impression … but unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of seeing, using or even hearing about their products. Any ideas to get around it. Thanks I can really use some help.

This might be a little late for you, but I was trying to do the same thing. The only way I could solve it was to downgrade the signal to component and then back up again to HDMI.

Video Wall looks great. From 20 feet away, the difference between that signal and a pure HD signal is almost negligible. Thanks Joe. So the HDMI strpper thing didnt work for you? I have ordered both since the directv boxes have component out. Sure hope I can get this finshed and have my customer of my back. I will up date as soon as I have the problem solved. FYI DIsh dose not have the same problems. So before doing anything complicated, test if it really strips HDCP.

Please keep us posted on how things work out! Thanks Herboer! I noticed that the HDMI 1. I wanted to share some info for my specific situation. Based on the great info here I was able to get a setup that works pretty well. I get good 2-channel audio from the Audio Extractor, which is as much as I need. You can probably get 5. Still it looks fantastic generally. Sanoxy 1. Generic and branded chips. Seller was not Speed LLC, should have tried that.

Ali Express 1. Might work for you, though. Well, when used as follows I got a signal but it had lots of horiz pink lines. Not acceptable. Sony BD player. I got lucky and got a Samsung that worked. I believe it uses HDMI 1. I was surprised that would make a difference.

Anyway I hope this helps anyone in my same situation. Based on my googling for my display, there are others out there. I wondered if you know why your two devices work?

I guess the Portta splitter is the one that does the magic scaling? I assume your device can handle the digital DVI data, so the analog conversion may not be an issue for you. Good luck. I was happy that I could get it done even though it took two devices.

Thanks Robby! I explained in detail my case on this post:. I am trying to find a way to use my amazon 4K firetv box on this monitor, but even with a couple of the switch boxes listed here cant remember what they are im at work so will look later, the iSolem is one I am unable to get this to work yet. Question is, because the monitor is HDMI 1.

The descriptions can be pretty bad. When I received them I verified both work. The 1st thing I did was test with the 2nd and now both fail. It is very frustrating that broadcasters can now work with manufacturers to determine when your TV stops working. I can also not imagine that firmware of for example the DirecTV box has all possible [valid and invalid] licenses available, this would mean constant updating of the firmware since new licenses will be released frequently, not to mention that one would not know how many licenses would be available in the next year s.

Maybe this FAQ gives ore info, but as far as I understand, when the license expires, the manufacturer simply must stop using the keys — so I assume that the expired key will still function.

The manufacturer is simply not allowed to use it anymore in newly manufactured equipment. Did you connect everything as you had done before when the splitter did work? Did you try connecting a valid HDCP device ie. First, thank you for your time! You have taught me more about HDCP and what you say aligns with my results. I have a Pioneer Elite HD. Yes, I know the spec covers backwards-compatibility but I have read that coverage can be inadequate. The TV started working, again. I anticipate it will resovle the issue given everything appears to be working when I remove it from the chain.

Thank you, again, both for your initial post sharing valuable information and for your care in following up and continuing to help! I actually enjoy writing articles and interaction with visitors. If only I could do this for a daytime job …. I guess the faulty firmware with DHCP issue could cause unexpected results, as in your case.

The one directly above from PingBack : coolquentin. Sorry if this seems to be a repeat? Your receiver most likely will not strip HDCP though. You could have the 2nd output of the splitter go to the receiver though, to monitor the output rom your PC. Spot on! Trying to get video out of an X1 Comcast cable extender box that only has hdmi out to an older plasma monitor that does not have hdmi. Anyone find a reliable fix? This seems simple if I understand it correctly.

You need to convert your HDMI signal into whatever signal the old monitor accepts. Just get an adapter of the appropriate type. Most of these adapters do not handle HDCP … unless one or the other Chinese company produces these haha — if you find one: please post it here! Of course, that is correct. However, IMHO, we first need to figure out the physical connection problem. Any converter to address HDCP issue would come next, as finding an all-in-one solution is more difficult.

Further, we do not know if the old monitor can even handle HDMI, and old monitors do not usually do so. Thanks for posting TwinCam! This working just fine for me HDMI 1. Thanks for confirming — awesome and happy to hear it worked for you! Anyone wondering where this link is: here. Etekcity model number It supports 4K and 3D. It has PIP picture in picture option and even a wireless remote control battery included.

Thanks for reporting Joe! Do you happen to have a link? When I looked for this seller, I noticed quite a lot of HDMI splitters and switches, some looking very familiar haha … but anyhoo: would you mind posting a link here?

I only found 13 results on eBay when searching for the model number which all show the exact same product. The lowest price on there is directly from the manufacturer. It even supports picture-in-picture? This web page has saved me an enormous amount of grief. At the time, everyone said pay extra for a 5 year warranty, which I did.

It is still in perfect condition with a great image. Also had an incompatible electrical plug, but easily solved. This is exactly the reason why I started digging into this topic. Nice, and super cool to hear that this fixed you problem, and made your TV all good again. Hans, I have followed this with great interest.

May I think that the ViewHD will take the output of the cable box and give it a handshake so that it can then pass clear HDMI out on just one output with the other not connected?

So this could very well be related to your problem. It could also be that your Sony is to blame. It will take a little experimenting to see what is causing the issue to begin with. The good news though is that these splitters are really cheap.

Thanks Ken for posting your findings and a link to the splitter that worked for you! Hey Ken, What exactly was the way you set up your system? Hi Trev, Thanks for replying! Again, Many thanks to Hans for setting up this blog!!

I still follow every new post, even after posting my findings and solutions…. Thanks Trev for following and contributing! I ended up taking a discount refund and kept the TV in hopes of getting it to work. It supports 4k and 3D. It works flawlessly. The more confirmations and new info we get the better! Hi quality p 25 fps. Second output like TV HD not necessary. HDCP is removed whit 1 input and 1 output.

Thank you for confirming that the Portta PET is working for you as well — excellent! Any idea if my problem can be related to hdcp? I have pretty old video projector Panasonic pt-aee. It works fine with ps4. Signal strenght and quality is perferct. Test and Program guide comes rhtough but as soon as start wathing actual tv Program, black screen!!! I have tried with splitter 2 to 1 as I would need ps4 and wbox to my video projector. This does sound like a HDCP problem.

I could be wrong of course, but your Program Guide and such are visible, just as soon as you watch regular TV it produces a black screen. You can see some discussion about the topic in this forum but as said, here is the summary about the initial problem and the solution!!!

Yes, I got it working. It has only one single HDMI input. I have 2 input devices PS4 and wbox hd3 digibox for tv programs. With that only wbox hd3 is working. PS4 gives black screen. Glad to hear things are working now! I have had the splitter for some weeks but get tired as it did not work. Now I tried it again, and maybe I did something differently. Now Wbox is working. But PS4 is not! Maybe I need to try some other PS4 compatible.

So I might have an issue around v2. Now with Delock splitter PS4 is out but Wbox is working…. How exactly did you wire everything? One for the PS4 and one for the WBox. Thank you for explanation. As you said, HDCP2. Have you any idea? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Table of Contents. HDMI cables. Krishna Rao Vijayanagar.

In addtion, how about HDCP1. Where it is used? So for now anyone with or buying a non-4K p TV doesn't need to worry. Once we start seeing more widely available 4K content , it will be more of an issue. There's no firmware upgrade that will get 2. At least, not on a product that wasn't designed with at least some idea about 2. For the time being, as we've said, it's not a big deal if you're planning on sticking with p.

Your current devices will work fine with new HDCP 2. As in, your current Blu-ray player will send p to a 2. You may also "see" HDCP 2. Since wireless 4K has only recently been announced at all, this isn't an immediate issue. It's safe to assume, though, that to get the content to and from the wireless transmitter and receivers, you'll still need HDCP 2.

This is a good sign. If it's not 2. As in, if you bought one of the first 4K TVs, generally released in , it may not work with whatever dedicated 4K content comes out in the near future. The problem extends throughout the chain. Run your HDMI through a receiver or soundbar? Enter your text to search Search. About Us. Have a question? Our Live Chat operators are ready to help! You might be wondering what is HDCP?

High-bandwidth digital content protection HDCP may sound like a topic that only computer programmers need to worry about. Intel created it to stop people from illegally recording copyrighted material. Like most technologies, this system has a few serious flaws. It might falsely detect piracy and prevent you from watching video content that you have no plans to record.

What is HDCP? To understand how HDCP could affect you, it's important to learn about the underlying concept. Machines like cable boxes and Blu-ray disc players scramble video before they send it to your television set. Before it can descramble and display a signal, the TV must exchange codes with the other device. This process stops you from recording video as you watch a copyrighted program.

To view a protected digital show or motion picture, all of your equipment must comply with HDCP. This requirement goes beyond movie players and TVs.